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平安就是福(apachi64d)

2012/02/21 15:34:25

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雞排&奶茶8分甜😆
加油!! 加油!! 希望有天我也能像優卡那些熱衷澇賽的富豪大大們一樣買的起進口車,但不希望像他們一樣對於澇賽有異於常人的熱衷。 響應「裝窮跟炫富一樣不好笑」活動

低調小跟班(dave1120)

2012/02/21 16:11:33

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回應 apachi64d (平安就是福) 所寫
雞排&奶茶8分甜😆

+1 😆😆😆

熊貓車主(ajfk)

2012/02/21 16:26:15

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回應 pipent1588 (旋轉摩天輪) 所寫
油電混合要省油應該只有在市區開塞車才會覺得有比較省油吧!!!😞


高速時,增加的重量反能成了負擔,不過,若有便宜的油電車,我也會買單。

Mr. Fat(mrfat)

2012/02/21 16:27:09

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本人經驗, 油電車和一般車樣, 順順開才會省的到油 & 安全

roger007(roger007)

2012/02/21 16:28:01

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扣除電池壽命耗損 車價

有更省嗎??

CHL(lin52379)

2012/02/21 16:47:13

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😲😲
雖說不可能像政府測試的那般神奇數據~
但實在差有點多耶~😇😇

知錯能改善莫大焉(drkkjr)

2012/02/21 16:52:57

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回應 lin52379 (CHL) 所寫
😲😲
雖說不可能像政府測試的那般神奇數據~
但實在差有點多耶~😇😇


所以明天應該是跌停板 😍😍
康姐說:千萬別跟豬打架,這只會讓你變髒,卻讓豬樂在其中。

棉靜致遠(aisin)

2012/02/21 16:53:48

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回應 drkkjr (KK真的跑路了...) 所寫
回應 lin52379 (CHL) 所寫
😲😲
雖說不可能像政府測試的那般神奇數據~
但實在差有點多耶~😇😇


所以明天應該是跌停板 😍😍


漲12塊還不夠嗎😆😆
凡自高的、必降為卑.自卑的、必升為高。

知錯能改善莫大焉(drkkjr)

2012/02/21 16:56:03

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回應 aisin (棉花糖) 所寫
回應 drkkjr (KK真的跑路了...) 所寫
回應 lin52379 (CHL) 所寫
😲😲
雖說不可能像政府測試的那般神奇數據~
但實在差有點多耶~😇😇


所以明天應該是跌停板 😍😍


漲12塊還不夠嗎😆😆


沒人嫌錢多的嘛 😆
康姐說:千萬別跟豬打架,這只會讓你變髒,卻讓豬樂在其中。

棉靜致遠(aisin)

2012/02/21 16:56:56

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回應 drkkjr (KK真的跑路了...) 所寫
回應 aisin (棉花糖) 所寫
回應 drkkjr (KK真的跑路了...) 所寫
回應 lin52379 (CHL) 所寫
😲😲
雖說不可能像政府測試的那般神奇數據~
但實在差有點多耶~😇😇


所以明天應該是跌停板 😍😍


漲12塊還不夠嗎😆😆


沒人嫌錢多的嘛 😆


繼續漲嗎?😊😊
凡自高的、必降為卑.自卑的、必升為高。

知錯能改善莫大焉(drkkjr)

2012/02/21 16:58:26

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回應 aisin (棉花糖) 所寫
回應 drkkjr (KK真的跑路了...) 所寫
回應 aisin (棉花糖) 所寫
回應 drkkjr (KK真的跑路了...) 所寫
回應 lin52379 (CHL) 所寫
😲😲
雖說不可能像政府測試的那般神奇數據~
但實在差有點多耶~😇😇


所以明天應該是跌停板 😍😍


漲12塊還不夠嗎😆😆


沒人嫌錢多的嘛 😆


繼續漲嗎?😊😊


我放空了 😇
康姐說:千萬別跟豬打架,這只會讓你變髒,卻讓豬樂在其中。

marchchen(marchchen)

2012/02/21 17:21:25

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回應 mrfat (Mr. Fat) 所寫
本人經驗, 油電車和一般車樣, 順順開才會省的到油 & 安全


任何車都是這樣呀 😇

小光(rolkilos)

2012/02/21 17:32:42

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回應 roger007 (roger007) 所寫
扣除電池壽命耗損 車價

有更省嗎??


現在在台灣買油電車是不可能省錢的......
「我問你,他是被幾架敵機打落的? 伊旺.高尼夫不可能在單打獨鬥的情況下被打敗的..............」

300匹貨卡駕駛(lin8810)

2012/02/21 17:48:28

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回應 rolkilos (小光) 所寫
回應 roger007 (roger007) 所寫
扣除電池壽命耗損 車價

有更省嗎??


現在在台灣買油電車是不可能省錢的......


Lexus RX450h 油電休旅+頂級超豐富配備, 價格高於Porsche Cayenne Diesel+基本堪用配備......

如果偶有錢, 偶100%選後者~ 😍😍😍😍
娶了個日本小老婆去義大利小島渡假~

300匹貨卡駕駛(lin8810)

2012/02/21 17:49:08

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回應 marchchen (marchchen) 所寫
回應 mrfat (Mr. Fat) 所寫
本人經驗, 油電車和一般車樣, 順順開才會省的到油 & 安全

任何車都是這樣呀 😇


火車呢?😇
娶了個日本小老婆去義大利小島渡假~

vansan(vansan911)

2012/02/21 18:00:22

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2012/02/21 18:00:22

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買完後油耗表現沒有這麼出射 可以向米國一樣告車商 車商賠車主10000美金麼[傻笑] 下方是連結 http://green.autoblog.com/2012/01/30/as-civic-hybrid-mileage-lawsuit-continues-honda-shows-up/ As Civic Hybrid mileage lawsuit continues, Honda shows up Heather Peters is suing Honda in small-claims court in Torrance, California over the lackluster fuel economy she's gotten out of her 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid. It isn't really a new lawsuit, it's one that sprung from Peters not signing onto the settlement of an earlier class-action lawsuit brought by one John True, who sued Honda over the same issue. The meat of the claim is that Honda's window sticker attested to an EPA combined 42 miles per gallon figure, but unhappy drivers are getting closer to 32 mpg. True's suit was settled out of court in 2009 and plaintiffs have until February 11, 2012 to partake of redress that the Attorneys General of 26 states declared "not fair, adequate or reasonable." Peters didn't sign on, taking her own case to small-claims court where cases aren't tried by lawyers. According to Automotive.com, Honda's point man Neil Schmidt didn't appear at the previous hearing, but this time he showed up and provided several dossiers to Commissioner Carnahan. Most of the paperwork submitted into evidence was reportedly "testimony from happy Civic Hybrid owners," which the judge dismissed. Schmidt first suggested that Peters did not adhere to the right service procedures with her car, then Honda's EPA certification engineer said that Honda had no option but to follow the EPA's testing procedures. While that is correct regarding following testing protocol, Peters argued that automakers have the discretion to use lower fuel economy numbers in their advertising and on Monroneys if they see the need. Peters claims Honda didn't lower the number because it was trying to take advantage of "the green revolution." Some observers believe the reduced mileage is an effect of a mandatory software upgrade applied to 2006-2008 Honda Civic Hybrids. The upgrade was meant "not just to prolong the life of the battery, [but] it also helps improve the performance." While there were complaints about the mileage before (as there are of a great many cars), it was after the upgrade that forums began to light up with tales of poorer mileage. That could have been because the upgrade reduced the car's reliance on the battery, a fix to allegedly offset the battery deteriorating more quickly than Honda anticipated. Commissioner Carnahan is expected to rule on the case as soon as next week. Peters hopes it's before the February 11 deadline to participate in True's lawsuit settlement. At stake is not just the $10,000 Peters is seeking, but a figure potentially in the billions as other unhappy owners could flock to lawyer-free small-claims court to fight their cases. In the event of a loss, Honda is expected to appeal, to which Peters says, "I'm ready!"

2012/02/21 18:07:20

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買完後油耗表現沒有這麼出射 可以向米國一樣告車商 車商賠車主10000美金麼[傻笑] 下方是連結 [url="http://green.autoblog.com/2012/01/30/as-civic-hybrid-mileage-lawsuit-continues-honda-shows-up/"]http://green.autoblog.com/2012/01/30/as-civic-hybrid-mileage-lawsuit-continues-honda-shows-up/[/url] As Civic Hybrid mileage lawsuit continues, Honda shows up Heather Peters is suing Honda in small-claims court in Torrance, California over the lackluster fuel economy she's gotten out of her 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid. It isn't really a new lawsuit, it's one that sprung from Peters not signing onto the settlement of an earlier class-action lawsuit brought by one John True, who sued Honda over the same issue. The meat of the claim is that Honda's window sticker attested to an EPA combined 42 miles per gallon figure, but unhappy drivers are getting closer to 32 mpg. True's suit was settled out of court in 2009 and plaintiffs have until February 11, 2012 to partake of redress that the Attorneys General of 26 states declared "not fair, adequate or reasonable." Peters didn't sign on, taking her own case to small-claims court where cases aren't tried by lawyers. According to Automotive.com, Honda's point man Neil Schmidt didn't appear at the previous hearing, but this time he showed up and provided several dossiers to Commissioner Carnahan. Most of the paperwork submitted into evidence was reportedly "testimony from happy Civic Hybrid owners," which the judge dismissed. Schmidt first suggested that Peters did not adhere to the right service procedures with her car, then Honda's EPA certification engineer said that Honda had no option but to follow the EPA's testing procedures. While that is correct regarding following testing protocol, Peters argued that automakers have the discretion to use lower fuel economy numbers in their advertising and on Monroneys if they see the need. Peters claims Honda didn't lower the number because it was trying to take advantage of "the green revolution." Some observers believe the reduced mileage is an effect of a mandatory software upgrade applied to 2006-2008 Honda Civic Hybrids. The upgrade was meant "not just to prolong the life of the battery, [but] it also helps improve the performance." While there were complaints about the mileage before (as there are of a great many cars), it was after the upgrade that forums began to light up with tales of poorer mileage. That could have been because the upgrade reduced the car's reliance on the battery, a fix to allegedly offset the battery deteriorating more quickly than Honda anticipated. Commissioner Carnahan is expected to rule on the case as soon as next week. Peters hopes it's before the February 11 deadline to participate in True's lawsuit settlement. At stake is not just the $10,000 Peters is seeking, but a figure potentially in the billions as other unhappy owners could flock to lawyer-free small-claims court to fight their cases. In the event of a loss, Honda is expected to appeal, to which Peters says, "I'm ready!"
買完後油耗表現沒有這麼出射
可以向米國一樣告車商
車商賠車主10000美金麼😆

下方是連結
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/01/30/as-civic-hybrid-mileage-lawsuit-continues-honda-shows-up/

As Civic Hybrid mileage lawsuit continues, Honda shows up

Heather Peters is suing Honda in small-claims court in Torrance, California over the lackluster fuel economy she's gotten out of her 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid. It isn't really a new lawsuit, it's one that sprung from Peters not signing onto the settlement of an earlier class-action lawsuit brought by one John True, who sued Honda over the same issue. The meat of the claim is that Honda's window sticker attested to an EPA combined 42 miles per gallon figure, but unhappy drivers are getting closer to 32 mpg.

True's suit was settled out of court in 2009 and plaintiffs have until February 11, 2012 to partake of redress that the Attorneys General of 26 states declared "not fair, adequate or reasonable." Peters didn't sign on, taking her own case to small-claims court where cases aren't tried by lawyers. According to Automotive.com, Honda's point man Neil Schmidt didn't appear at the previous hearing, but this time he showed up and provided several dossiers to Commissioner Carnahan. Most of the paperwork submitted into evidence was reportedly "testimony from happy Civic Hybrid owners," which the judge dismissed.

Schmidt first suggested that Peters did not adhere to the right service procedures with her car, then Honda's EPA certification engineer said that Honda had no option but to follow the EPA's testing procedures. While that is correct regarding following testing protocol, Peters argued that automakers have the discretion to use lower fuel economy numbers in their advertising and on Monroneys if they see the need. Peters claims Honda didn't lower the number because it was trying to take advantage of "the green revolution."

Some observers believe the reduced mileage is an effect of a mandatory software upgrade applied to 2006-2008 Honda Civic Hybrids. The upgrade was meant "not just to prolong the life of the battery, [but] it also helps improve the performance." While there were complaints about the mileage before (as there are of a great many cars), it was after the upgrade that forums began to light up with tales of poorer mileage. That could have been because the upgrade reduced the car's reliance on the battery, a fix to allegedly offset the battery deteriorating more quickly than Honda anticipated.

Commissioner Carnahan is expected to rule on the case as soon as next week. Peters hopes it's before the February 11 deadline to participate in True's lawsuit settlement. At stake is not just the $10,000 Peters is seeking, but a figure potentially in the billions as other unhappy owners could flock to lawyer-free small-claims court to fight their cases. In the event of a loss, Honda is expected to appeal, to which Peters says, "I'm ready!"

~~~~~~~(kompressor)

2012/02/21 18:08:47

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回應 lin8810 (你上貨卡駕駛) 所寫
回應 rolkilos (小光) 所寫
回應 roger007 (roger007) 所寫
扣除電池壽命耗損 車價

有更省嗎??


現在在台灣買油電車是不可能省錢的......


Lexus RX450h 油電休旅+頂級超豐富配備, 價格高於Porsche Cayenne Diesel+基本堪用配備......

如果偶有錢, 偶100%選後者~ 😍😍😍😍


實際上rx450h入手價比Porsche Cayenne Diesel+基本堪用配備 低不少~~~
[忠心懸日月.孝義重丘山] [四十九年一睡夢.一期榮華一杯酒]

五億地下探長(joy333)

2012/02/21 18:20:07

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2012/02/21 18:20:07

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目前小弟 prius 開一萬公里 一般路面和 高速公路 各半 平均油耗在22~23.5 之間 現在換 車友用的 5W-20 的機油 看看油耗會不會好一些 [無辜][無辜]

2012/02/21 18:21:48

發文IP 92.134.*.*

目前小弟 prius 開一萬公里 50% 一般路面遵循到路速限 和 50% 高速公路會開到120 平均油耗在22~23.5 之間 也都順順的開 現在換 車友用的 5W-20 的機油 看看油耗會不會好一些 [無辜][無辜]
目前小弟 prius 開一萬公里 50% 一般路面遵循到路速限 和 50% 高速公路會開到120 平均油耗在22~23.5 之間 也都順順的開

現在換 車友用的 5W-20 的機油 看看油耗會不會好一些 😇😇
在看不見的高空盤旋

四季(onetwolo)

2012/02/21 18:22:57

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回應 joy333 (回不去的五億地下探長) 所寫
目前小弟 prius 開一萬公里 一般路面和 高速公路 各半 平均油耗在22~23.5 之間

現在換 車友用的 5W-20 的機油 看看油耗會不會好一些 😇😇

上次看到一本雜誌,好像有一位車友開 CT200H 改的不錯看,
聽說改了一顆大鋁圈,據說加油的次數並沒有提高,不知道
這是不是買油電車的好處。
🙂
相傳有種鳥,畢生僅鳴唱一次,他的啼聲悠揚動聽,舉世無雙.自他飛離窩巢的那天起,就始終不停地尋找一種銳利無比的樹直到實現後,便歌舞在枝椏間.最後,投身於最尖長,最銳利的一根刺上.就這樣,臨死前的劇痛化作悅耳感人的歌聲.這正是他為生命所付出的代價,因而博得世人的傾聽,連上帝也在他的天堂中微笑了.因為,唯有付出最深沈的痛楚,才能換得最美好的事物.

五億地下探長(joy333)

2012/02/21 18:24:19

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回應 onetwolo (四季) 所寫
回應 joy333 (回不去的五億地下探長) 所寫
目前小弟 prius 開一萬公里 一般路面和 高速公路 各半 平均油耗在22~23.5 之間

現在換 車友用的 5W-20 的機油 看看油耗會不會好一些 😇😇

上次看到一本雜誌,好像有一位車友開 CT200H 改的不錯看,
聽說改了一顆大鋁圈,據說加油的次數並沒有提高,不知道
這是不是買油電車的好處。
🙂


不知道 😇😇 目前車上都是原廠裝備😇😇
在看不見的高空盤旋
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