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work(a2031580500)

2013/03/21 10:41:01

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回應 wzu (wzu) 所寫
回應 actychou (紫曦) 所寫

0W30是不是比5W30更好啟動?沒在零下20~30度以下環境啟動過,比較不出來...😆
如果有便宜的0W20全合成機油,小弟真想試試...😇


我的拖鞋..

自從

由Mobil-1 0W40換成

ENEOS SUSTINA 5W30後

以前冬天偶爾會發生第一下沒發動的狀況幾乎沒了..

就算很偶而第一下沒發動第2次也可以很輕鬆發動...

之前的0W40...😞

第一下沒發動 😵

第2次發動就要多神~神~神~好幾下...😩

這種事
比較少人說跟機油有關係
比較多人說跟電系.油路有關係

紫曦(actychou)

2013/03/21 10:41:37

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回應 wzu (wzu) 所寫
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5W的比0W的容易發動...😰
規格有問題.....😆


賣弄一下之前的開箱😊

http://forum.u-car.com.tw/thread.asp?forumid=231709

ENEOS是不是要修正為"-5W30"?😆
同是天涯愛車人,相逢何必曾相識...

wzu(wzu)

2013/03/21 11:03:41

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回應 actychou (紫曦) 所寫
ENEOS是不是要修正為"-5W30"?😆

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_oil

其中這段有寫到😆
For single winter grade oils, the dynamic viscosity is measured at different cold temperatures, specified in J300 depending on the viscosity grade, in units of mPa·s, or the equivalent older non-SI units, centipoise (abbreviated cP), using two different test methods. They are the Cold Cranking Simulator (ASTMD5293) and the Mini-Rotary Viscometer (ASTM D4684). Based on the coldest temperature the oil passes at, that oil is graded as SAE viscosity grade 0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W, or 25W. The lower the viscosity grade, the lower the temperature the oil can pass. For example, if an oil passes at the specifications for 10W and 5W, but fails for 0W, then that oil must be labeled as an SAE 5W. That oil cannot be labeled as either 0W or 10W.

For single non-winter grade oils, the kinematic viscosity is measured at a temperature of 100 °C (212 °F) in units of mm2/s (millimeter squared per second) or the equivalent older non-SI units, centistokes (abbreviated cSt). Based on the range of viscosity the oil falls in at that temperature, the oil is graded as SAE viscosity grade 20, 30, 40, 50, or 60. In addition, for SAE grades 20, 30, and 1000, a minimum viscosity measured at 150 °C (302 °F) and at a high-shear rate is also required. The higher the viscosity, the higher the SAE viscosity grade is.

看不懂別問我...我只看的懂ABC 26個大小字母 跟標點符號 湊起來我就不認識他了😭
這裡有中文版內容較少
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A9%9F%E6%B2%B9

紫曦(actychou)

2013/03/21 11:29:42

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回應 wzu (wzu) 所寫
回應 actychou (紫曦) 所寫
ENEOS是不是要修正為"-5W30"?😆

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_oil

其中這段有寫到😆
For single winter grade oils, the dynamic viscosity is measured at different cold temperatures, specified in J300 depending on the viscosity grade, in units of mPa·s, or the equivalent older non-SI units, centipoise (abbreviated cP), using two different test methods. They are the Cold Cranking Simulator (ASTMD5293) and the Mini-Rotary Viscometer (ASTM D4684). Based on the coldest temperature the oil passes at, that oil is graded as SAE viscosity grade 0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W, or 25W. The lower the viscosity grade, the lower the temperature the oil can pass. For example, if an oil passes at the specifications for 10W and 5W, but fails for 0W, then that oil must be labeled as an SAE 5W. That oil cannot be labeled as either 0W or 10W.

For single non-winter grade oils, the kinematic viscosity is measured at a temperature of 100 °C (212 °F) in units of mm2/s (millimeter squared per second) or the equivalent older non-SI units, centistokes (abbreviated cSt). Based on the range of viscosity the oil falls in at that temperature, the oil is graded as SAE viscosity grade 20, 30, 40, 50, or 60. In addition, for SAE grades 20, 30, and 1000, a minimum viscosity measured at 150 °C (302 °F) and at a high-shear rate is also required. The higher the viscosity, the higher the SAE viscosity grade is.

看不懂別問我...我只看的懂ABC 26個大小字母 跟標點符號 湊起來我就不認識他了😭
這裡有中文版內容較少
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%A9%9F%E6%B2%B9


沒有-5W...😆


難道ENEOS 5W30機油無法通過0W的測試?
那為何其Viscosity曲線的低溫流動性比0W的還好?😵
同是天涯愛車人,相逢何必曾相識...

自由的我(yur)

2013/03/21 11:49:46

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福斯原廠的5W30去年還是一瓶720元,聽說已經漲到790元了😝

wzu(wzu)

2013/03/21 11:58:19

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回應 actychou (紫曦) 所寫

難道ENEOS 5W30機油無法通過0W的測試?
那為何其Viscosity曲線的低溫流動性比0W的還好?😵

添加劑...😆

wzu(wzu)

2013/03/21 12:00:07

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回應 yur (給我最低消費就好) 所寫
福斯原廠的5W30去年還是一瓶720元,聽說已經漲到790元了😝

790😲

跟"德國廠"售價可以比了....但不曉得是不是一樣的東西😆

Super(erichuang801)

2013/03/21 12:17:49

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小弟覺得0W20最好, 開了近70,000公里(Honda 3.5V6 8代Accord)

Super(erichuang801)

2013/03/21 12:31:16

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回應 erichuang801 (super) 所寫
小弟覺得0W20最好, 開了近70,000公里(Honda 3.5V6 8代Accord)

昨天上班在T-65 ExpressWay上又小試18~19格一下(10~20sec吧), 應為有一台2,000和3,000的H牌車檔道, 拍謝 !

紫曦(actychou)

2013/03/21 14:21:57

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回應 actychou (紫曦) 所寫

難道ENEOS 5W30機油無法通過0W的測試?
那為何其Viscosity曲線的低溫流動性比0W的還好?😵

添加劑...😆


送測的時候沒有添加嗎?
不然低溫流動性比0W還好,怎會無法通過0W的測試?😇
同是天涯愛車人,相逢何必曾相識...

wzu(wzu)

2013/03/21 14:34:50

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2013/03/21 14:34:50

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[quote=actychou (紫曦)][quote=wzu (wzu)][quote=actychou (紫曦)] 難道ENEOS 5W30機油無法通過0W的測試? 那為何其Viscosity曲線的低溫流動性比0W的還好?[頭暈][/quote] 添加劑...[傻笑][/quote] 送測的時候沒有添加嗎? 不然低溫流動性比0W還好,怎會無法通過0W的測試?[無辜] [/quote] [color="#FF00FF"]That oil is graded as SAE viscosity grade 0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W, or 25W. The lower the viscosity grade, the lower the temperature the oil can pass 機油依其可通過測試的最低溫度會分為0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W 或 25W。其級別越低,表示可通過測試的溫度越低[/color]

2013/03/21 14:36:31

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[quote=actychou (紫曦)][quote=wzu (wzu)][quote=actychou (紫曦)] 難道ENEOS 5W30機油無法通過0W的測試? 那為何其Viscosity曲線的低溫流動性比0W的還好?[頭暈][/quote] 添加劑...[傻笑][/quote] 送測的時候沒有添加嗎? 不然低溫流動性比0W還好,怎會無法通過0W的測試?[無辜] [/quote] [color="#FF00FF"]That oil is graded as SAE viscosity grade 0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W, or 25W. The lower the viscosity grade, the lower the temperature the oil can pass 機油依其可通過測試的最低溫度會分為0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W 或 25W。其級別越低,表示可通過測試的溫度越低[/color] [color="#FFFF00"]再問下去我就要被問倒了[/color]
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回應 actychou (紫曦) 所寫

難道ENEOS 5W30機油無法通過0W的測試?
那為何其Viscosity曲線的低溫流動性比0W的還好?😵

添加劑...😆


送測的時候沒有添加嗎?
不然低溫流動性比0W還好,怎會無法通過0W的測試?😇


That oil is graded as SAE viscosity grade 0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W, or 25W. The lower the viscosity grade, the lower the temperature the oil can pass

機油依其可通過測試的最低溫度會分為0W, 5W, 10W, 15W, 20W 或 25W。其級別越低,表示可通過測試的溫度越低


再問下去我就要被問倒了

小若(bill99)

2013/03/21 15:09:31

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友站討論機油的相關文章,給有興趣&時間的人研讀一下:http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=214&t=1531009&p=1

我的個人意見是:沒想到這個年代還在相信台灣牌濃稠神油的人還真的存在😰好吧,我承認我不愛車,我都用5W30,下次想去換0W20爽看看,反正我還有錢修車烙引擎😭
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